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Frederick Jack Page AKA John Wright

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Frederick Jack Page AKA John Wright

An extract and precis of conversations on Ancestry

Frederick Jack Page known as John Wright is the father of Anthony James Carr. and 2 other boys.
John Wright was reared by the poor law system and the church. He was already married to another ,using his birth name so when he married Hannah he used John Wright.
All 3 of their boys used Wright as their birth name.
He stepped out of their lives when they were very young. and married again.

He had a sister who came to live in NZ.

The detail of name confusion; No1 son was bought up by his Grand parents on his Mothers side and took their surname Lamb .No 2 son used Wright, No3 son ( Anthony James ,used Wright until his early 20s and changed to Carr when he came to NZ.

I note from the 1939 register that the Writes lived next door to a Carr, but apparently, the name change to Carr had nothing to do with the neighbours ,but a 'father figure' who featured in his life at sea.

So it would seem that not only was Fredrick Jack Page using two names, he married three times.

Families of Frederick Jack Page AKA John Wright.

Summary

Summary of the families of Frederick Jack Page AKA John Wright.

A collection of facts from the discovery below and elsewhere together with a mix of assumptions, suppositions, and observations.

Firstly, our person of interest is not to be confused with a similar family based In the vicinity of the East India Docks, in the Parish of All Hallows, Bromley, Middlesex. In the area of Poplar, London. Lots of similarities, but not the same.

Our person of interest the third of four children of Edwin / Edward Page and Florence Gertrude Page, nee Lockwood. Edwin Page had married Florence Lockwood in Q2 1901 at Fulham.

Frederick Jack Page

Birth 6 FEB 1906 • Fulham, London, England
No Baptism record found so far

His elder siblings were;

Edwin / Edward Leonard Page

Edwin Leonard Page born 25^th Jan 1902 to Edwin & Florence Page of 12 Weston Terrace, Notting Hill, a Milkman, was baptised at St Mary's Bolton Parish Church in the county of London, on 30^th Mar 1902.

Alice Blanche Page

Alice Blanche Page was baptised on May 8^th, 1904 at St. Andrew's Church, Fulham by Charles E Curzon, to parents Edwin & Florence Gertrude Page of 63 Dieppe Street. His occupation is stated as Traveller. She was born March 6^th 1904.

His younger sibling was;

Albert James Page

Birth 24 APRIL 1908 • Fulham Walham Green, London, England
No Baptism record found so far.

School

The eldest child started infants school.

On 17^th Sept 1907 Page Edward Leonard joined the Langford Road Infants School. His date of birth was recorded as 26 1 02, with his father's name being Edwin of 43 Hazlebury Rd, Within months, on 6^th Dec 07, he was removed from school. That is just 81 days from the start date to the end date, end date included.

Start and finish before Albert was born.

Poverty struck

Sometime after 1908, according to a newspaper clipping, Edwin Page, a painter, was summoned by his wife, Florence Gertrude Page, living at Harwood Road, Fulham, who sought a separation on the ground of desertion. He had left his family, and joined a circus with another woman. The magistrate granted her a separation, and fixed the allowance to be paid by the husband at 10s. a week.

The desertion led to difficult circumstances for the family, and despite the award of 10 shillings, or half of one pound, if it was paid. They were very poor and three of the children are recorded as going the 'the poor school', West London District School, also known as Ashford School, in Ashford, Middlesex. A residential institution, but not the nearby borstal. Albert, the youngest did not attend.


			Condition									My Notes
Name	Date of Admission	Age {DOB}	Orp han	Des ert ed	Il legit imate	Other Child ren	Parish or Union	Religious Persuasion	Date of Discharge	Address of Relatives or Friends	Remarks	Duration	Notes
Page Alice	27 . 2. 09	4 . 3 . 04		1			F	CE	11^th Dec 1909	Mo: [Mother] Florence (deserted) 113 Harwood Road Fulham		288 Days	Deserted by father
Page Jade [Jack]	27 . 2 . 09	6 .2 . 06		1			F	CE	20^th Oct 1911	Mo: [Mother] Florence (deserted) 113 Harwood Road Fulham		966 Days [c,2,6 years]	Deserted by father 679 days between discharge of Alice and Jade
Page Edwin	10 . 4 .09	26 . 1. 02		1			F	CE	16 Nov 1912	Mo: [Mother] Florence (deserted) 113 Harwood Road Fulham		1317 Days [c3.6 years]	Deserted by father 392 days between discharge of Jade and Edwin

Alice and Jack were admitted together, with Edwin a month or so later. They were all discharged separately, with Alice, the only girl, being the earliest. The two boys were discharged after appearing in the 1911 Census as residents. Their mother was recorded as living at 113 Harwood Road Fulham, their contact address. Apparently not abandoned, just too poor to feed and look after them.

Subsequentially, Florence remarried, to a George Waters on Jan 1916, in Kensington, London, England.

Timeline and addresses of the Page family
Date	Name	Event	Abode Address	Event Address	Notes
Q2 1901	Edwin Page and Florence Gertrude Lockwood	Marriage of Edwin Page and Florence Gertrude Lockwood	Fulham, London, England
25^th Jan 1902	Edwin Leonard Page	Birth	12 Weston Terrace, Notting Hill	Unknown, presumed to be at home
30^th Mar 1902	Edwin Leonard Page	Baptism	12 Weston Terrace, Notting Hill	St Mary's Bolton Parish Church
6^th March 1904	Alice Blanche Page	Birth	63 Dieppe Street	Unknown, presumed to be at home
8^th May 1904	Alice Blanche Page	Baptism	63 Dieppe Street	St. Andrew's Church, Fulham
6 Feb 1906	Frederick Jack Page	Birth	Fulham, London, England	Unknown, presumed to be at home
	Frederick Jack Page	Baptism			Not yet found
17 Sept 1907	Edward Leonard Page	Start School at Langford Road Infants School.	43 Hazlebury Rd	Langford Road Infants School, Langford Road	His date of birth was recorded as 26 1 02,
6 12 1907	Edward Leonard Page	He was removed from school.		Langford Road Infants School, Langford Road
24 April 1908	Albert James Page	Birth	Fulham Walham Green, London	Unknown, presumed to be at home
	Albert James Page	Baptism			Not yet found
About 1908	Florence Gertrude Page	Newspaper clipping - Separation	Harwood Road, Fulham
27 Feb 1909	Alice Page	Admission to Ashford School	113 Harwood Road Fulham	Ashford School, Ashford, Middlesex
27 Feb 1909	Jack Page	Admission to Ashford School	113 Harwood Road Fulham	Ashford School, Ashford, Middlesex
10 Apr 1909	Edwin Page	Admission to Ashford School	113 Harwood Road Fulham	Ashford School, Ashford, Middlesex
2 Apr 1911	Edwin Page	Census 1911			Not yet found
2 Apr 1911	Florence Gertrude Page	Census 1911			Not yet found
2 Apr 1911	Edwin Page (9)	Census 1911	Ashford School
2 Apr 1911	Alice Blanche Page	Census 1911
2 Apr 1911	Jack Page (5)	Census 1911	Ashford School
2 Apr 1911	Albert James Page	Census 1911			Not yet found
19 June 1921	George Waters	Census 1921	13 Dartrey Road, Chelsea
19 June 1921	Florence Waters	Census 1921	13 Dartrey Road, Chelsea
19 June 1921	Ted Page	Census 1921	13 Dartrey Road, Chelsea
19 June 1921	Alice Page	Census 1921	13 Dartrey Road, Chelsea
19 June 1921	Jack Page	Census 1921	13 Dartrey Road, Chelsea
19 June 1921	Bert Page	Census 1921	13 Dartrey Road, Chelsea



15 Sept 1969	Florence Gertrude Waters	Died	34 Kimble Road
2 July 1970	Florence Gertrude Waters	Probate

Discovery

Discovery and Research of the families of Frederick Jack Page AKA John Wright.

Frederick Jack Page AKA John Wright

Frederick Jack Page

Frederick Jack Page aka John Wright (1906–1965)
Birth 6 FEB 1906 • Fulham, London, England

Option A

Frederick was born into a working family in the area of the East India Docks, London.

Extract of 1901 Census, the last one before Frederick was born.

The Page family lived in a multi-occupancy house at 49 Benledi Street. In the vicinity of the East India Docks, in the Parish of All Hallows, Bromley, Middlesex.

The link to this census page, considering other known information, is somewhat tenuous, but for, sharing the address is a Frederick Duggen, Single, male 19 years of age, recorded as a relative to the head of the house, William Page. Expected would have been Edwin / Edward Page.

Part of the original road survives, but has, not unexpectantly, been redeveloped

NLS OS 25inch Old Map East India Dock Benledi Street - Essex (New Series 1913-) n LXXXVI.9 Revised: 1914, Published: 1916

Extract of 1911 Census, about 4-5 years after Frederick was born.

The date of the 1911 Census was 2 April 1911, so his age would have been 5 years 1 months 27 days. Recorded as 4 year in the census record. However, ages were often somewhat flexible on Census forms.

Fredrick is recorded as being born in the London Hospital, whilst the rest of the children are Poplar, London, possibly born at home.

The London Hospital officially became The Royal London Hospital on September 24, 1990. This was when Queen Elizabeth II granted the hospital the royal title in recognition of its 250th anniversary. The hospital was originally established as the London Infirmary in 1740. It changed its name to The London Hospital in 1748.

One child, James Page is recorded as having died at the date of the census, at 3 months. By the order of the list, he was presumably born before Alice in 1902 but after the 1901 Census.

OS 25 Old Map East India Dock Willis Street A - Essex (New Series 1913-) n LXXXVI.9 Revised: 1914, Published: 1916

Willis Street is only about 600 yards away from the 1901 residence in Bedledi Street. Still back to back properties, but with slightly bigger back yards.

Comparison of data between 1911 and 1901 Census records
Name	Relationship	Gender	Living	Age	Status	Occupation	Place of birth	Age	Status	Occupation	Place of birth
			1911					1901
William Page	Head	M		39	Married	Dock Labourer	Poplar London	29	Married	Labourer (General)	London, Poplar
Florence Page	Wife	F		38	Married		Kilburn London	28	Married		London, Kilburn
Walter Page	Son	M		15	Single	Boiler Makers Boy	Poplar London	6			London, Poplar
George Page	Son	M		14		Maker of Life Belts	Poplar London	4			London, Poplar
Florence Page	Daughter	F		12		School	Poplar London	2			London, Poplar
James Page	Son	M	No	Died at 3mths			Poplar London
Alice Page	Daughter	F		9			Poplar London
Lily Page	Daughter	F		7			Poplar London
Frederick Page	Son	M		4			London Hospital
William Page	Son	M		2			Poplar London
Frederick Duggen	Relative	M		xx	xx	xx	xx		Single		London, Kilburn

The information is reasonably consistent across the 1911 and 1901 Census records. Flora in 1901 and Florence 1911 are assumed to be interchangeable.

This appears to be the same family as previous, still at 73 Willis Street.

Other information suggests that Florence Page died in 1913 and therefore could not be included in the 1921 Census.

Option A DISCOUNTED

I thing it is important and beneficial to explore and record creditable options to the point where they can be discounted

Option B

Transcription of adjacent newspaper clipping, dated sometime after 1908.

WEST LONDON

OFF TO THE "WILD WEST."

Edwin Page, a painter, was summoned by his wife, Florence Gertrude Page, living at Harwood road, Fulham, who sought a separation on the ground of desertion.

Mr. Pierron (Pierron and Ellis) supported the summons, and stated that defendant had treated his wife abominably. He made the acquaintance of a woman named Nora M Naughton in 1908, and she had a travelling circus called the "Wild West Show." She persuaded him and his wife to go round the country with the show, and then in the course of the tour he went off with the woman and betook himself to Canada. In June of this year he was arrested on a warrant issued by the guardians in consequence of the children having been taken to the workhouse, and was sentenced to three months' hard labour. The cost to the ratepayers, added Mr. Pierron, of keeping the children had amounted to £130.

Evidence was given by Mrs. Page, who said that the show was at Chinnor, Bucks, when her husband and the woman M Naughton went off at half-past six one morning.

The defendant said that he did not go off to live with the other woman, and, in fact, she offered both his wife and himself to go to Canada with her.

The magistrate granted her a separation, and fixed the allowance to be paid by the husband at 10s. a week.

An extract of England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 for Edwin Page, 1901 Q2-Apr-May-Jun

Using Page and Vol. 1a. 753 on FreeBMD.

Surname	First name(s)	District	Vol	Page
Marriages Jun 1901 (>99%)
CLOOS	Hannah Rebecca	Fulham	1a	753
LOCKWOOD	Florence	Fulham	1a	753
Page	Edwin	Fulham	1a	753
SHEPHERD	Albert	Fulham	1a	753

Which, corelating with the above newspaper clipping, suggests that Edwin Page married Florence Lockwood in Q2 1901 at Fulham

Census, England, 1911

From the Ashford School records, of the family of interest, only Edwin Page and Jack Page were still at the School at the time of the 1911 Census. Alice was discharged on 11^th Dec 1909, whilst the boys were discharged on 16^thNov 1912 and 20^th Oct 1911 respectively.

Census, England, 1921

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW
George Waters	Head	32	7	M	Married	North End Road Fulham West Kensington	--		Engineers Turner	William Randall Laundry Engineers	William Randall Vulcan Works Barnes
Florence Waters	Wife	38	9	F	Married	First Street, Chelsea	--		Home Duties		At Home
Alice Page	Step Daughter	17	3	F	Single	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Junior Clerk	Sketchley Dye Works	Sketchley Dye Works Knightsbridge
Bert Page	Step Son	13	2	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--	Whole time
Jack Page	Step Son	15	4	M	Father Dead	Fulham, Chelsea, London	--		Errand Boy	Fulham Football Grounds	Fulham Football Grounds
Ted Page	Step Son	19	5	M	Father Dead	Notting Hill London	--		Steward on Ships	No fixed place	On Board Ship

Census England 1921 - George Waters - 13 Dartrey Road Chelsea SW
	Assumed to be				DoB from Age	Current presumption of DoB	Match	Notes
George Waters	George Waters	32	7	M	1888	ABT 1874	No
Florence Waters	Florence Gertrude Waters, previously Page, nee Lockwood	38	9	F	1882	28 MAR 1877	No
Alice Page	Alice Blanche Page	17	3	F	1904	5 MAR 1904	Yes
Bert Page	Albert James Page	13	2	M	1908	24 APR 1908	Yes
Jack Page	Frederick Jack Page	15	4	M	1906	6 FEB 1906	Yes
Ted Page	Edward Leonard Page	19	5	M	1902	26 JAN 1902	Yes

OS 25 Old Map Dartrey Road Chelsea - London (1915- Numbered sheets) VIII.4 Revised: 1913, Published: 1916

Death of father

Edwin / Edward Page (1878–1915)
Jul 1915 • Lambeth, London

Arrival
8 May 1959 • Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
In transit to New Zealand

Death of mother

Florence Gertrude Waters, previously Page, nee Lockwood, of 43 Kimble Rd London S.W.18 [SW19] died 15 September 1969.

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